Advisor 3, Learner 3: Interview 3, Extract 7 (C3_A3_3_7)

C3: well, that’s pretty good news, isn’t it?
A3: yeah < m- I’m very happy, I’ve lived through it
C3: you told me you were going to do something >
A3: yesterday um so the bad news is that I only did the article and I didn’t relaunch anything it’s in my mind um it was it was that
C3: there you go
A3: um I was discussing it um so yesterday with the person I told you about and he had to um he asked me where I was in English and um well I was very positive I mean um I was um I was happy um happy with myself um I know there’s something behind it whereas before we’ll say I would have done the same thing with stuff um texts that passed me by because it didn’t interest me
C3: ah
A3: ah I think I’d have had some rather negative comments, whereas now, um, I mean I’m only at the beginning, to be honest, but um
C3: um < yeah yeah
A3: but um > I’ve had I’ve had I mean I’ve had I’ve talked a lot about the fact that I felt comfortable that I felt good um that there’s a process that takes place that I understand um I understand I I understand myself we’re um for me well into the logic of learning to learn eh < we’re
C3: um >

A3: and so now I’m back to thinking about myself, which interests me a lot and goes beyond English because it also allows me, as we’ve seen, to look at how a day is organised.
C3: um >
A3: and everything that goes with it and um so um I understand the mechanisms better and I feel capable we’ll say um um beyond the sessions we have together I feel capable of doing things
C3: there you go um so it’s still < a huge step forward yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah all right
A3: ah yeah yeah yeah ah I’m I’m hyper positive eh eh >
C3: right
A3: on that point there’s a- there’s a- there’s no problem it suits me fine after I I I I thought well a c- c- I’m I’m a bit slow well it’s a bit linked to my situation but um I don’t despair I don’t despair that it will improve um in terms of time and gaining time on other things having fewer responsibilities today I’m I’ve got about two jobs at the same time so that takes up a lot of my time [laughs] and < um teacher
C3: [laughs] >
A3: and researcher c- it’s not even this one, it’s < another one
C3: no, no, it’s also > in charge, um
A3: yeah and so um I say to myself that it’s not progressing but that’s not serious because it’s not the mechanisms that seem important to me to maintain so um < it’s mainly
C3: hum hum >
A3: not to give up but I don’t feel like giving up < I don’t feel like giving up

C3: OK >
A3: let it go < I don’t feel like it
C3: there you go >
A3: erm telling myself erm yeah erm won’t work and < all that
C3: um > um um
A3: because I’m not even thinking that it’s going to work I’m not thinking, um, I’ve got to speak English know English whatever, no, I’m just thinking professionally with, um, um, reading up on what I need for my research
C3: yeah, that’s very good
A3: so um that fits in well with my objectives < it’s not
C3: um >
A3: an English objective for an English objective after um the three objectives we had were um reading listening speaking eh that was it so um I say to myself these three objectives are independent < and um
C3: hum hum >
A3: as far as I’m concerned, they don’t fit into the method um well I mean from our meetings they they they they they the three are not going to coexist
C3: that’s up to you to decide
A3: well, I’ll tell you how I see things, um, and that maybe afterwards we should start again on um, we’ll say another phase with a phase based more on listening
C3: hum hum
A3: erm, when I’m ready, when I feel comfortable erm, with doing things and < anything else that goes
C3: yes >
A3: with and then um and at the same time to work on it
C3: hum hum
A3: I think we talked about it um in the first interviews it was that I’d done some so it was read < j- j- I had

C3: yeah >
A3: I’d started and I’d also been listening to CDs.
C3: yeah
A3: so it was interesting because there was stuff going on at the same time but I think I’d come to the conclusion on my notebooks I’m sure I < said that and no no but on occasion I I I I think
C3: oh I’ve got to read them [laughs] it’s terrible I had them in my hands >
A3: I’d come to the conclusion that, er, I’m not the type to focus on one thing and then see it through to the end < rather than
C3: yes yeah >
A3: erm, to put two or three things on the fire at the same time and it’s not going to last
C3: well yes, so um the important thing is to do something that’s in keeping with your um < your style
A3: and when > people talk to me about conferences in English, it scares me more
C3: yeah
A3: even if I’m not going to understand anything they’re going to say, but it < doesn’t scare me anymore
C3: um >
A3: and then I < learnt with
C3: well, after all, understanding isn’t > said either
A3: no no but um you see what I mean is that I’m not apprehensive a priori and then um there are conferences that I’ve found that are French English
C3: hum hum
A3: so um that’s good because I can take part in them < um
C3: voilà >
A3: and then I can have a look or a listen somewhere < for um

C3: um >
A3: that it’s not going to be all day in English, not understanding anything and all that.
C3: yeah < um
A3: to understand nothing >
C3: in general, you have access to at least the summary of the communication, erm, so
A3: yeah yes
C3: you can also read it because it’s not too long < maybe also uh
A3: yeah but > for the moment the whole day with English speakers no < it’s not the thing it’s not the yeah
C3: it’s too uh yeah >
A3: it’s not what I’m looking for
C3: yeah yeah
A3: because I like to talk I like to change and I quickly feel limited and then at some < moment
C3: it’s frustrating
A3: yeah > it’s frustrating gibberish uh
C3: um
A3: ahem
C3: so it’s a goal for afterwards
A3: yeah, absolutely
C3: ahem
A3: yeah yeah but I’m setting it in time
C3: yeah, that’s good
A3: I’m putting it in the time frame so um after um there you go