Advisor 3, Learner 3: Interview 2, Extract 8 (C3_A3_2_8)

C3: so there you go, I think you’re also very honest v- well, your analysis is good, I don’t have much to add [laughs] to what you’ve told me < today
A3: hum hum >
C3: erm insofar as erm erm you know erm what you don’t like you know erm what interests you you’ve started to immerse yourself in something that interests you and you’re succeeding
A3: ahem
C3: to < advance
A3: *** yeah >
C3: so for me you’re right < eh you’re
A3: right >
C3: in the really good in the here well in the methodology just for you
A3: um
C3: um in what you mentioned yes so we talked about the file we talked about the corpus um what you mentioned just now also seems to me to be very right in relation to the email and in relation to the in relation to the in relation to < both of them
A3: um um >
C3: the documents you looked at if you’re actually asked to understand the starting situation of which is left < implicit
A3: hmm hmm >
C3: it’s a difficulty I would say in all cases of understanding
A3: hum hum
C3: c- so it’s c- from my point of view a bit regrettable in a way that um we don’t tell you straight away she’s done this she’s done that here’s where we are and here’s < what you have to look at
A3: hum hum hum hum >

C3: and there you go um well it’s a bit of a shame because in the end when you look at it you’re in a natural situation of understanding
A3: hum hum
C3: you don’t choose an author by chance, you choose a < theme it’s
A3: hum hum >
C3: not by chance and you have all the means all the
A3: ahem
C3: elements to go into uh the text eh
A3: what I was missing from the exercises
C3: ahem
A3: it would be in inverted commas one one one one one one extra thing it doesn’t necessarily have to be read in the text because it can be < interesting you see
C3: yes >
A3: to discover
C3: yeah
A3: but an additional thing next to it that sums it up
C3: information
A3: giving information about what happened
C3: yeah
A3: um for someone who isn’t sure if they’ve understood or not < the situation here it is
C3: prior information > that’s it yeah yeah absolutely absolutely so that’s uh we agree on that so what did you tell me ah yes so the story about when you were talking with the < the others
A3: yeah >
C3: in relation to practice of course you have to practice but you have to practice what you want to practice for < the moment
A3: um >
C3: so um
A3: erm for me we’d- I’d find myself in that box < watching TV films I’d find myself in that box there

C3: si si si je vous disais euh voilà si je vous disais > allez-y euh < regardez tous les jours
A3: yeah yeah >
C3: five minutes < et cetera
A3: hum hum >
C3: there you go
A3: I’ll do it when I feel like it eh when I feel like it
C3: yes
A3: when I feel the need and try to look at it and < *** and then you’ll have a > objective < behind you.
C3: and then you’ll have an > objective < behind it because
A3: yeah, that’s it > I agree if I have < no objective
C3: yes >
A3: already what
C3: well, no, so, um, here’s when you’re at it, because there was something in your – in your three
A3: yeah yeah
C3: great objectives there’s talking and talking there’s bound to be < um um um
A3: well there was listening >
C3: yes yes that’s it there’s writing < listening
A3: listen >
C3: et parler quand vous en êtes à parler vous vous aurez l’exposé scientifique < ce sera une
A3: hum hum >
C3: something to work on but you’ll also be able to talk to people a bit < erm
A3: hum hum >
C3: at conferences and so on m- in my opinion that’s why eventually
A3: yeah, we agree
C3: listen to the news < progressively tatata *** that’s it
A3: um yeah but there but there I get a better sense > I get a better sense because I go to see someone and um when I go to see Belgian or Swiss or Moroccan friends or whatever < um

C3: hum hum >
A3: we talk in French we talk I mean I’m going to ask them questions about their country um about what’s going on < at the moment about
C3: absolutely >
A3: what I’ve < heard
C3: that’s it >
A3: to compare things like that
C3: there you go
A3: so yes, now I < like it more
C3: it’s nourishing > eh it’s nourishing < um
A3: yeah >
C3: euh des des des < thématiques et cetera
A3: it makes sense >
C3: and then you’ll have, um, the means at that point to well, well
A3: but we always < come back to
C3: it’s for it’s but er >
A3: and so it’s for me that’s why I feel better too because for me it’s the same as in entrepreneurship i.e. um entrepreneurship is a setting in a situation
C3: hum hum
A3: and most of the research in entrepreneurship is rather decontextualised and it’s more like, um, slicing and dicing
C3: OK
A3: whereas for me it’s important to be put into a situation and in English I always start from the same situation of de de de I feel more comfortable in a situation because it makes sense
C3: yeah
A3: to the situation I’m in, so in a situation there’s a purpose.
C3: absolutely
A3: there are objectives
C3: um
A3: something < decontextualised

C3: um > well yes so um then what I’d perhaps just have to say to you in relation to that well it’s the working time I think you can’t do the impossible < it’s up to you
A3: hum hum hum hum >
C3: um well, you did it naturally anyway, trying to < shoot
A3: um >
C3: make the most of your moments and < et cetera
A3: hum hum >
C3: erm, it’s clear that the more you do it, the quicker you’ll see the obvious results < eh I can’t tell you
A3: hum hum bah already no but > this interview is encouraging
C3: eh < anyway
A3: because I mean > we hadn’t had uh
C3: yeah yeah < absolutely yeah
A3: um > things put in place < it was um
C3: yeah yeah >
A3: the first interview was < precisely
C3: yeah >
A3: to set up
C3: yeah
A3: I found what you were telling me encouraging, so it’s not necessarily leading me to increase my time. We’ll see, but it’s already telling me that I’ve understood where we’re going.
C3: absolutely
A3: and < um
C3: yeah yeah >
A3: that in relation to that I’m doing the things I want to do < and not
C3: that’s it >
A3: within the constraints
C3: um